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I have been a lurker on the forum for over a year and really appreciate the insight that a lot of you give on the games. I had a question for those of you that use North Coast's phone line. A friend of mine who is out of town is a subscriber and left me the number and password to get the NFL Game of the Month selection. Does anyone know what time this is released? My friend neglected to tell me that. Apologies if this is posted on the wrong forum. Good luck to everyone today.
 

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Call and play the other side, best advice you will ever get....
 

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I believe you have to call after 11:00. And his NFL picks are doing better than his college picks but Chad is right he's not doing great with any of his picks this year, unless it's a 5*.
 

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That is not entirely true...he is having a better year in college. He does have a winning record as documented at thesportsmonitor.com. Also.. People have a lot to say about this service, both good and bad...but the records are all documented.
 

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My bad he is having a better year in NCAA. Just so you know his 900# for the NFL is 10-9 on the year.

The problem with Phil Steele is he has so many differant plays and types of plays that at least 1 of them is bound to have a good record and then he touts that one.

For example he not only has his 900# releases. He also has marguee play, college totals, underdog play of the week. big 10 play of the week. computer play of the week, power sweep plays, monday night magic plays, monday night totals plays, power plays, early bird play of the week, Thurs. ESPN play, inside info play, ESPN sun night play, NFL totals play of the week, inner circle play, and I'm sure there's more that I can't think of off the top of my head.

Don't get me wrong if you see one of his 5* plays it would be wise to get on it. but otherwise I don't bother.

He does have a great magizine called college football preview with alot of good info in it.
 

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Chad C gave you the best advice you'll ever get. Don't listen to these crooks!! If they knew more then you they wouldn't need to grab you for 25.00 or more. In this day and age, you can pretty much wager whatever you want on a game, 10,000, 20,000 anything. With that being the case, why are these people looking for your credit card number. If they knew anything they would just bet it themselves and not be concerned with grabbing your 50 dollar bill, THINK ABOUT IT. Tell your friend to lose the number and never, ever, pay for a handicapping sevice again.

After spending a lot of years in this business, I haven’t a clue why anyone over 21, make that 18. buys into those wild advertising claims boasting results that don’t exist and never did.

Yes, I'm familiar with P.T. Barnum’s belief, “there is a sucker born every minute.” But the promises, guarantees and winning percentages advertised are just too incredulous. They are actually insulting. Many years ago, one noted publication had a standing proposition paying 100-1 to anyone who could pick 70% winners over a 100-game period. The few who took up the challenge were eliminated after just a handful of weeks. There has never been a single instance that I personally know of, where 70% has been achieved in the NFL over a 100-game span. Further evidence is shown by the long history of handicapping contests in Nevada, where not a single winner has accomplished the 70% mark!

Meanwhile, the pitchmen become more outrageous every season. Sadly, publications like the USA Today and most local newspapers are willing to give them exposure, lending credibility but at the same time leaving gullible readers at the mercy of these unscrupulous characters. Particularly amusing are those “50,000 Star Lock” releases. I don’t even know exactly what a “50,000 Star Lock” indicates, but in my experience, I’ve never seen a single football game worth more than twice your average bet. Anyone that follows football, even just moderately, knows there are probably between 10 and 20 plays per game that can potentially change both the game and pointspread outcome. These plays can rarely be projected beforehand.

Let this not be perceived as negativity on my part. The challenge of handicapping pits the handicapper against the linemaker. The latter is far from infallible. Notwithstanding the luck factor and the basic nature of sport, where performances constantly vary, there are spots where an astute handicapper can have an advantage. If he does this with some consistency, he can become more than a match for his adversary, the linemaker. There is a real difference between the ‘educated guess’ and ‘pure luck’ approach, however. The ‘educated guess’ requires intelligence, hard work and dedication, not a bunch of BS.

Remember this…

These games are not scripted. Those who claim to be in possession of some exclusive classified information that will absolutely and positively decide the outcome of a game are simply looking to scam you. Also, no matter what label is given to any one game, i.e. ‘Lock of the Year’, ‘Game of the Month’, ‘Million Dollar Star’—the unpredictable factors of sports—are inherent in every game. The people that claim differently are not legitimate. They are unconscionable charlatans, parasites and predators. Plain and simple!

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70% winning percentage would be nice, but not nessecary. ACE-ACE said this perfectly in on of his recent threads. You could have people who are 50-80, but won money or 80-50 and lost money. I don't thing winning percentage is the number one thing to look at in gambling, it is "money mangement" (ACE-ACE). Bet higher on your most confident games and lower on your least confident. (ACE-ACE) But I do agree to tell his buddy to throw away the number. You have a free service right here. Great cappers on hear everyday and FREE!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sherwood....great Write Up.....

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. Set Up A Phone Number......

You Get A Low 50 Caller

You Tell Them That If You Do Not Win I Will Give You Back Your Money

25 Of The Caller You Put On Phil..the Other 25 You Put On Pitt......

You Take In $1000 And You Make 25 Come Back And The Other 25 Goes Away Or Give You One More Try.....you Send Back 500 Minus Exp.....and You Get $450 That Week....

Bigger & More Ad....more Players....

I Did This One Year.... 15 Year Ago.....i Was Making Over $1500 A Week... Its A Joke......i Hear That How Some Did It And It Was Worth A Try....get It Free Here....
 

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I take P. Steeles power sweep for 3 years now. I bet his 4 star and college dog and his pro 4 star and pro system play. this year we are 20-11. they give you credit to call in for his thursday nights etc. so far i am 2-1 there with some credit left. I guess thats o.k. his college football mag is pretty good for $8.00 and it gets you his pro mag for free. I cant complain the power sweep weekly service is $84.00 for the year. well worth it.
 

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